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OK so...the following is from the last NDE Bulletin:

"In setting up NSSRS for 2016-2017 NDE found an issue with the School of Residence [Student: Location of Resident (165)].  This field is only 3 digits not 11 as was noted in the 11.1 version of the Student Template Instruction Manual.  NDE notified all the Student Information System vendors August 16 and the vendors will have to update the Student and Student Snapshot Templates before you can upload your student data for 2016-2017.  We are sorry for the additional work and delays this causes you and your Student Information System vendors.  The updated instructions for this field are noted in version 11.3 of the Student Templates Instruction Manual posted 08/19/2016.  Previous to the 11.3 version of the Student Template Instruction Manual the field School of Residence [Student: Location of Resident (165)] was named School of Attendance.  This name change was corrected in version 11.3."

Can anyone enlighten me as to just what we need to do to comply with this "issue"?  Do we have to change our District of Residence Codes?

Thanks!
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Anyone else getting complaints that teachers can no longer copy PowerTeacher seating chart layouts from one class to another? Any suggestions?
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Seating Charts for our school is all kinds of messed up. Some can see, some can't, some can move kids around, some can't. All can't print them. eerrrrrr.. 

Yikes! I've only heard the one complaint. Are you on 10.0.1?

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I get this question every year and I'm always giving the wrong answer. We have semester-long classes but we store grades for Q1 and Q2. They go home on what we call a quarterly progress report.

My question: if the S1 and S2 are the official grades for a class, do our teachers need to set up Q1 and Q3 terms? Looking back on my notes, I looked into this before and ended up telling the teachers they need to do final grade setup for all four terms (Q1, S1, Q3, S2). But this doesn't make sense to me. Why should they set up Q1 and Q3 if only S1 and S2 are official grades?

Ideas? My brain hit its capacity last week ...

Thanks!

Jane ;-)
Marian High School

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OK ... so here's what I found in my notes. Is this true? Is there a way to store a Q1 and Q3 term grade but not have those terms need to be set up?

"Q1 and Q3 terms need to be set up the same as S1 and S2. Technically, Marian doesn’t do the traditional quarterly grades (such as Q1+Q2=S1), but we store quarter grades so we have to set up a term for Q1 and Q3. If your S1 grades are set up to calculate using category weights but Q1 is set to default with total points, the Q1 and S1 grades will be different."

I guess the answer is yes and no or maybe "it's complicated" or maybe "it depends".

There are two parts to this and it comes from the start of the Permanently Store Grades screen: 

1) Use this Final Grade/Reporting Term:
2) Save with this Historical Store Code:

When you store grades, the store code that gets recorded can be anything you want. You enter characters into the field labeled "Save with this Historical Store Code:".  You could have the records showing XX or Q8 if you wish. But most of us enter the same value as was chosen in the line above which is "Use this Final Grade/Reporting Term".

The "Use this Final Grade/Reporting Term" tells the stored grade process what final grade to use in the Teacher's Gradebook.

So YES, you can store a Q1 grade for a semester long section, without setting up a Q1 grading term. 

Example:
Use this Final Grade/Reporting Term:  S1
Save with this Historical Store Code:  Q1

Just realize, this grade that gets stored with a Q1 store code is not necessarily the average of all the grades for a specific range of time (ie: start of Q1 to the end of Q1). This grade would be the calculation as of the point in time when the grades were stored. If you stored the grades 3 days after the end of the quarter, it might contain grades from Q2 if a teacher has entered grades from assignments given in Q2.

Some schools have gotten completely away from quarters, so when they store grades in the middle of the term, they store an M1 the first semester and an M2 the second. Again, this indicates the average at the point in time grades were stored.

If you don't have quarter terms defined and you store a grade at the mid-term, no matter if you call it M1 or Q1, the issue I see with this is if a parent questions the stored grade, you have no way of determining which assignment grades were used in the calculation. It was whatever grades that were entered when grades were stored. There is no way of going back and trying to see if your calculation is right b/c there is no date range to pull the assignments.

Just because you create a Q1 & Q2 grading term doesn't mean teachers have to calculate their S1 grade using the quarter terms. They can calculate S1 any way they would like.

Maybe a compromise if you are truly against even saying or showing the word quarter, is to create an M1 grading term that runs from the first day of school to the middle of the term, and then you can store this term grade and I would use M1 as my store code too. This way you would know what assignments make up that stored grade and you are not mentioning quarters.

Hope this makes sense.


Thanks, Wayne. When we store the quarter grade ("snapshot" is what the administrators call it), we use the S1 grade, as in your example. Technically, we know which grades were entered by the specific date and time so we should be able to go back to verify a quarter grade, if needed. But for all purposes, the Q1 grade is not an official grade. 

If we turn off the term Q1 from ever showing for parents and students, it shouldn't matter if Q1 is set up like S1, right? The problem we've had in the past is when parents and students see the Q1 grade and it's showing a different grade from S1 during the first quarter.

I like the idea of calling it an M1 grade -- really gets away from the quarter. Maybe I'll pass that along.

Thanks for your help! :-)

My issue with setting up Q1 and Q3 is that teachers always forget or don't get them set up correctly with the S1 and S2 grade setup. Plus it's twice the work, which further encourages teachers to not complete setting it up consistently for each class. I end up running reports and tracking teachers down, which I don't have time to do.


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Are this year's parents more needy than usual ... or is it just mine??? =:-0 #happynewschoolyear #ineedadrink
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I have one teacher that cannot see any students on the single day attendance tab.  If you switch to Multi-Day all students appear.  Any ideas on why this is happening?  Thank you!!!
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Check your calendar set up to make sure it is complete - this happened to us once as well where it looked we only had school once a week.

You have an invalid student on a CC record. A student got deleted out of the student’s table, but they still have section enrollments. Go to the Teacher Schedules, click on the Class Counts number for the section, then you should see an invalid student and a number. Use that number to search the CC table’s for StudentID= ##### and delete those records.

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Save the Date!

Fall Nebraska PowerSchool Users Group
Educational Service Unit #10 Kearney
76 Plaza Blvd, Kearney, NE  68845

Wednesday Evening - October 5, 2016 - Networking Session (Tentative)
Thursday, October 6, 2016 - PowerSchool Sessions

More Details Later

Tentative Sessions
PowerTeacher Pro - New! (web based)
Enterprise Reporting - New!
PowerSchool 101
(for new schools using PowerSchool)
Secretary Session
Drop & Adds - What They Affect
Importing/Exporting with Data Manager
How to Create Custom Fields
Moving from NSSRS to ADVISER
NSSRS - Validation Reports
NSSRS Help Session

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Does anyone export, update and import Staff Demographic and Staff Assignment info?  If so what table to you import into or more generally how do you import this information.  I have tried several imports, PowerSchool looks like it import correctly but when I check the individual records nothing has updated.    Thanks for any ideas!!!
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Make sure your TeacherNumber's are correct. If one is wrong, the whole import will fail. It wont identify the incorrect line in red, but it might put in UNKNOWN STAFF. Other fields with incorrect data could cause the import to fail. 

I import one record to make sure I have the format correct. You could divide and conquer by trying to import half of the records and if that doesn't work, take half of the half, and keep going till you find the bad records.

OK, I'll try that!  Thanks Wayne!!!

What table to you import into for each template?

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How do the rest of you handle foreign exchange students as far as NeSA testing goes.? We usually enter these students as juniors since there is no possibility of graduation with us, but then they show up on the NeSA list.  Any suggestions?
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I either make them a 10th or 12th grader, regardless of actual grade level.

How does it work with graduation cohort if you enter them at 12th grade?

If we enter them as 12th grade then we transfer them out right before graduation.

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Who all will be using PowerTeacher Pro this fall? My intent was to start our new teachers with it ... but I'm getting cold feet. I've been so busy that I haven't had much time to figure it out. Just curious what others are doing. If I start the new teachers with PTP, they will come to me for grade book support. :-(  #neverbeenateacher  
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We are having the new teachers to our district use Pro and during our pre- in-service we are going to let the other teachers choose if they want to be cutting edge with Pro. Our technology  integration specialist and I are to the training at ESU 10. I know Wayne and Ellie will help everyone get through this upgrade.

Sure wish I lived closer to Wayne and Ellie!

We are planning on rolling it out to all teachers the 17-18 school year.

We are going to have demonstrations and classes on PTPro the first have of this 16-17 school year. In the second half of 16-17 school year we are going to have group of teachers convert their gradebooks and be trained on the program and use it for the rest of the school year. Then those teachers are going to turn around and teach the other teachers in the 17-18 school year.  So basically we will have a teach the teacher model in place. 

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Hello everyone -- Great conference this week! Thanks to everyone who presented and worked on the event. :-)

How do you handle long-term subs for maternity, etc.? Do you give the sub access to the teacher's PS account and grade book? (Obviously, changing passwords first.) Do you create a new account for the sub and use them as a co-teacher for the 12 weeks or so?

What are the long-term ramifications for creating a generic long-term sub account and using that account as a co-teacher? We don't usually have the same long-term sub so I'm considering changing the account name each time. Would that cause any problems later, with that account tied to grades?

Thanks!

Jane  :-)
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Jane,
I Columbus I go to the Teachers account then change the Username and password to be the subs name for the username and a different password but it is the teachers account in PowerSchool. I have found that to be the easiest for us.  We may have multiple log term subs at the same time.  That way I know when the teacher comes back because she emails me that she can not log onto PowerTeacher until I change it back to her.

Jane,

We usually create a separate account for the long-term sub, add the sub as a co-teacher to the sections, and then de-activate the sub's account at the end of the assignment. This allows the sub to receive weather alerts, etc. through our third party program. And the teacher can still log in from home if he/she so chooses.

Thanks, Suzanne and Amanda. This gives me a couple of options. :-)

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